So the Browning Hi-Power, actually John Browning first made the design for the Browning Hi-Power and he died before he completed it. Interestingly enough, most people do not know that the Israeli Kareen was designed to fire the 158gr FMJ submachine gun round fired from Uzi's, thus, it was actually designed to be stronger than the Browning HP. An average group from Duke’s FN Hi-Power (above) using 115-grain FMJ factory ammunition is an acceptable 2-3/4 inches at 25 yards. Shaw , … FN Browning Pistols, Side-Arms that Shaped World History is the quintessential reference book on FN Browning pistols and reflects the continued work of Anthony Vanderlinden on the topic. After occupying Belgium in 1940, German forces took over the FN plant. Save Share. So, is it possible that a 140 waffenamt mark tangent hi power could have a mag without any markings? The markings on the breech area of the barrel are early Belgian nitro proof marks for rifled barrel and parabellum pistols. These are even less common. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Trick out or upgrade your firearm with the largest gun parts selection at eBay.com. I was always intrigued by this handgun, I think mainly because so few pistols have been used by so many different countries for a military sidearm. For a while, Canada used decals to mark property. FN/Browning Hi Power 9mm. The roll mark on the slide is the only marking on the pistol other than the serial number and proof marks. (frame, slide, and barrel), and no import marks. All of the guns mentioned in this section will have full-blown FÉG Company markings and proof marks, and are not in any way fake FN/Brownings. Nothing got to the 1″ mark, but multiple brands hit the 1 1/2″ to 2″ mark. 9mm HP INGLIS CANADA,” as shown above. This area will help you read that serial number. Proof Marks, Arsenal & Inspector Marks In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. Fighting Tyrants & Traitors is a 24/7 Job that Must be Done! If you accept what the gun was designed for, a double stack military sidearm shooting 115gr ball rounds, the Hi-Power … I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a "plastic pistol". FN Hi Power. I'm not at all in the know on the Hi-Power line, except to know that a lot of people like them A LOT. There are also Hi-Powers marked "AKAH" and "GECO". "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER". But unlike the 1911, the High Power has always stayed under the Browning name and it is still manufactured today by Miroku in Japan. It was then picked up by the FN Factory in Belgium and they completed the design in the late 1920s and went into production. This is a rare Lithuanian military contract Browning Hi Power, manufactured by Fabrique Nationale. Fighting Tyrants & Traitors is a 24/7 Job that Must be Done! -The Controller of Proof Mark (*O) was used by Watrin Charles from 1928-1965-My 1950 pistol has serial number 28,*** but serial numbers are not conclusive. Forums > Handguns > Browning Hi Power Handgun > Found a Hi Power with shoulder stock and holster- 4-digit SN Discussion in ' Browning Hi Power Handgun ' started by R.G. Any ideas of a fair price? I just purchased a WWII Hi Power and am in the first of a 3-day inspection period and am concerned about the markings, or lack thereof. It follows (I am not sure if the Tables will com over properly) West German Commercially Marked Browning High-Powers I wrote an article for the NAPCA magazine a few years ago, which pertained to the marked Hi-Powers. The Hi-Power is one of the most widely used military pistols of all time, having been … "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER" John Browning & Dieudonne Saive's Designs Will Always be Light Years Ahead of All the Others. The third mag is only WaA103 marked. Additional Browning photos can be seen here The major departure from the 1911 on the High Power … Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. New to Browning Hi Powers, so please be gentle. Between 5,000 to 7,000 pieces were made and delivered to Lithuania in the late 1930s, prior to World War II. German troops subsequently used the Hi-Power, having assigned it the designation Pistole 640(b) ("b" for belgisch, "Belgian"). The gun is manufactured by FN Belgium and is serial No. Pistols and Holsters. The subject gun is a fixed sight version with original finish, all matching serial nos. The left side of the frame is also marked with an Eagle holding a globe with swastika and “E / WaA140”. ... it does say browning patent depose on the side . If the gun is marked “Browning Arms Company,” than it is a Hi-Power. There are 4 variations of markings (or lack of markings) on WWII German Hi-Power magazines. Here is the good things: Shoots and works great; Has a good bore; Apparenty was made in WWII because the barel has Nazi proof marks. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. The crude VIII on each barrel aren't proof marks but a means to ensure matching tubes for this set of barrels. Before there was a Sig P226 or a Beretta M92 there was a the Browning High Power. Asking $2900 obo My Grandfather was a war time journalist for "The Yank" during WWII. But this one is a particularly good one. There's no indication of gauge. Charlie, thanks for sharing your years of research with us. Great deals on Gun Parts Browning Hi Power. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But as I mentioned, the markings you mentioned were also used before the Germans came. Now you can date your Browning firearm. You would have to l ook for Nazi Waffenamt marks. A family member recntly passed away and has several old guns. The subject gun is a fixed sight version with original finish, all matching serial nos. I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a "plastic pistol". Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Late German maybe? At least some of the German ones do. The gun is manufactured by FN Belgium and is serial No. 1966 Browning Hi-Power Made in Belgium New Condition in correct Browning Pouch with Manuel. If present, the meaning is unknown and are likely assembly or control marks. High Power or Hi-Power: If the gun is marked “Fabrique Nationale,” it is a High Power. Duke plinks steel with an Inglis Hi-Power. Since the U.S. has no proofing houses (as in England, France, Germany and ... 1868-1925 London definitive special super power proof for parabellum pistols 1868-1925 Birmingham voluntary special black powder proof It is in very good condition with 85% original finish. It should have some Belgian proof marks. I don't think some were marked at all? My first introduction to the Hi Power came when I was working at The Gun Room, a gun store I called employer from 1978 to 1982 or so. Are these HP markings pre-war or post-war? Many thousands of FN Hi-Powers were made in Belgium when occupied by the German Army and all were taken. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. HI, John. Examples produced by FN in Belgium under German occupation bear German inspection and acceptance marks, or Waffenamts, such as WaA613. Now this is a great example of the information available at this forum!!! All will be found on the spine of the mag. The changeover from WaA613 to WaA103 occurred at SN 65285, only 35 numbers away from that of this pistol, and it may be that new stamps of the correct style were not available at the time of the changeover. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. A small “C-Broad Arrow” acceptance mark is found on the left side of the trigger guard, also shown in the photo above. I have two. I can't speak for the German HPs, but the WWII Canadian made Inglis magazines are marked with a small "JI". The problem is this mark was used from 1818 (muzzle loading period) until 1893, so that hardly narrows down the time frame. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. fn high power ,fabrique nationale wwii german military proofed description: fn high power wwii period under german management with nazi military proof marks eagle 140, in all the right places ,this is the 2 nd variation which has the tangent sights to 500 meters ( good luck ) , there were 3 variation for this model , cal 9mm, all ser. The one in my collection has British proof marks. T258001-261000 C=Hi Power: 1976-1997: In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it followed until 1998. The acceptance stamps and proof marks appear somewhat crude and without the definition seen on other Browning High Power, Luger and P38 pistols used during the war. However, with a pistol that age, you never know what could be going on. FN Browning Hi Power - Lithuanian Contract - sn 3xxx. There is only 1 pistol, and it is a 1936 browning hi-power. JavaScript is disabled. The acceptance stamps and proof marks appear somewhat crude and without the definition seen on other Browning High Power, Luger and P38 pistols used during the war. cpw, where did you get you information on the pre war markings (magazines)on Belgium H.P.? 38266a. It was made by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium, and was designed by John Moses Browning like like the Colt 1911. (frame, slide, and barrel), and no import marks. Maybe I was just looking in the wrong places? http://www.gunnyboy.com/post_list.php?uid=2953&post=e2f9247929b404b2fe98ba6f32301e3b Video of shooting the old WWII Nazi proofed Hi Power. Even post-war? It was also later licensed to Inglis in Canada. Only one "NORIS" Hi-Power is known. Before there was a Sig P226 or a Beretta M92 there was a the Browning High Power. German: German Mfg. , 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1 Canada... 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